Dan 04 Jan 06 12:10

Kent Robertson--where are you located? I built the 21' tri Ulua that I have written up here in the archives. I'm planning on decking the hull or going with a 3.5" cockpit freeboard extension to make it a bit more weatherproof. As it is now, it tends to take on a bit of water from boat wakes. How is yours performing? Did you go with the planned sail rig? Shoot me an email at dstgean at geneva304 dot org if you see this. Dan


Chris Ostlind 17 Dec 05 14:22

Hi Tom,

What if you could skip the ritual of having huge sail power along with the business of excessive wetted area in order to provide a planing hull in the first place?

What if you could get planing speeds from a slender, multihull style hull and not give away the potential for paddling a light, low drag boat when there's no wind?

I'm just about to provide an article to Chuck that addresses that scenario. If you drop me an email, I'll send you a sneak-peak of the Tribe boat of the future.

Chris Ostlind
Lunada Design


tom drake 16 Dec 05 06:42

Chris, I'm always interested in your designs. I am currently constructing a S&G hybrid tri for the Everglades Challenge. Already looking ahead to the next boat, I am considering planing hulls. I'm thinking of straying from a boat "balanced" for both sailing and rowing and favoring the sailing side. Have you looked at how much flat bottom on the stern half of your boat you would need to plane the hull in reasonable winds?? And how much that would degrade rowing/paddling performance? Any thoughts??


Chris Ostlind 15 Dec 05 08:39

Gosh, thanks for the great comments, guys.

When I draw-up a new boat and put it out in front of folks, I just never know if other boaters are going to find real value in my vision. To be perfectly honest, I sometimes don't care as I'm answering a personal desire.

The vast majority of the cases, though, are about trying to create a boat design that will work well for a group of folks who share my enthusiasm for being out on the water.

I'm always trying to draw boats that will work well, be cost effective to build and are easily doable for the average guy who is like me.

Chris


Kent Robertson 14 Dec 05 20:09

Looks good, Chris. I've built the Gary Dierking design Ulua at 18 ft. It's fast and fun to sail and paddle, though not really of volume enough to do long-range expeditions like yours. Gary has a great site about a very spartan expedition around New Zealand. https://web.media.mit.edu/%7Etim/pix/2004_nz/nz_canoe.html Here's Gary's website https://homepages.paradise.net.nz/garyd/ulua.html
Another great resource is Nick Beck of Holopuni Canoes. https://www.holopunicanoes.com I'd bet that either or both of them would give you a very experienced critique of your new design.


Scott Calman 14 Dec 05 11:57

I recently read Keep it Moving, the Baja by canoe By Valerie Fons. She was Verlen Kruger's partner for his trip from Los Angeles to Yuma via Cabo San Lucas. An interesting read. Every time they "Catamaraned" the boats I would cringe as all I could think about was the incredible forces that must have been put on the beam mounts. The boats survived it fine though. Your design seams infinately better for a trip[ like that.

Good luck!


Kellan Hatch 14 Dec 05 10:05

As someone who already sails a decked-canoe trimaran I think the XCR is a very exciting design. I hope readers will appreciate the amazing potential of a boat like this. Great work, Chris!


Evan Hardman 14 Dec 05 08:28

Looks fun! Get it built. I may be in Salt Lake later this winter and maybe could come and see it.